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 Nov 30 2007, 03:51 PM
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Mar 11 2008, 11:00 AM
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 Corporal Joined: 10-March 08 From: crystal, MI Drum Set: Other Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 139 |
jared i've been wondering something, you know how when you were doing the heels up method it made a different sound than when you did heels down, well it doesn't do that with my bass drum and i was kind of wondering why that is........can you help me? - Caleb Watson
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Mar 11 2008, 02:05 PM
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FDL Administrator Joined: 28-November 07 From: BC Canada Drum Set: Yamaha Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 380 |
QUOTE (vezpdrummer @ Mar 11 2008, 10:05 AM)  jared i've been wondering something, you know how when you were doing the heels up method it made a different sound than when you did heels down, well it doesn't do that with my bass drum and i was kind of wondering why that is........can you help me? - Caleb Watson Heels-up tends to get more volume, while heels-down typically gets better tone. It also depends on other factors, like how the drums are mic'd up, etc. -------------------- Rick Kettner
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Nov 15 2008, 05:05 AM
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 Apprentice Joined: 14-September 08 From: Raway NJ Drum Set: CB Cymbals: Meinl Posts: 36 |
I cant figure out how to get the rebound. I tried extending the mllet . tightening the tension spring but I keep burrying the mallet.
I have even tried sitting up higher. -------------------- You can go through life wondering what if, Or you can Jump in the pool and say WHY ME!!!
The destination isnt important.What is important is the lesson you learn ,friends you make, Enemies you become aware of while taking that journey.Ease off the pedal and open your mind.[/ |
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Nov 16 2008, 01:38 PM
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 Sergeant Joined: 10-December 07 From: Sweden Drum Set: Gretsch Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 331 |
QUOTE (muaymendez @ Nov 15 2008, 01:05 PM) I cant figure out how to get the rebound. I tried extending the mllet . tightening the tension spring but I keep burrying the mallet. I have even tried sitting up higher. Do you mean that you cant do double bass strokes? Well, you dont get rebound from the actual bass drum. The "rebound" comes from the tension spring. You have to find a technique so that you release the pressure on the pedal instantly after each stroke so that the beater can leave the drum head again. There are tons of videos on YouTube demonstrating different techniques. Check them out! |
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Nov 18 2008, 04:54 PM
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 Private Joined: 4-October 08 From: Bratislava Slovakia Drum Set: Ludwig Cymbals: Paiste Posts: 84 |
Is for rock heels-up technique better? I prefer heels-down, but I see many drummers playing rock like using method heels- up.
 Thanks! -------------------- Martin |
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Nov 18 2008, 06:28 PM
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 Captain Joined: 16-May 08 From: Toronto, Ontario Drum Set: Yamaha Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 903 |
QUOTE (Hunter @ Nov 18 2008, 06:54 PM) Is for rock heels-up technique better? I prefer heels-down, but I see many drummers playing rock like using method heels- up. Thanks! Heels up is for the speed and sort of endurance. This is good for double bass. Heels down emphasizes the beat on the bass drum, therefore not as fast as heels up. If you want really really fast, heel-toe is the best way. This good for single and double bass 
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Nov 19 2008, 09:41 AM
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Private Joined: 4-October 08 From: Bratislava Slovakia Drum Set: Ludwig Cymbals: Paiste Posts: 84 |
QUOTE (Sticktrix @ Nov 19 2008, 02:28 AM) Heels up is for the speed and sort of endurance. This is good for double bass. Heels down emphasizes the beat on the bass drum, therefore not as fast as heels up. If you want really really fast, heel-toe is the best way. This good for single and double bass Thank you Sticktrix, I have to practise more heels-up technique! 
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Nov 20 2008, 02:41 PM
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Captain Joined: 16-May 08 From: Toronto, Ontario Drum Set: Yamaha Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 903 |
QUOTE (Hunter @ Nov 19 2008, 11:41 AM) Thank you Sticktrix, I have to practise more heels-up technique! Hunter, this video should sum up everything so far. It shows the difference between heels up, and heel toe. Good luck! YouTube Video ->
Original Video
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Nov 20 2008, 02:51 PM
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 FDL Moderator Joined: 4-December 07 From: Boston, MA Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 5,051 |
That's one way of playing heel toe. But you don't necessarily have to fit your heel on the pedal to be able to do heel toe. All you need is the motion and a little pedal space to fit your toe.
 By the way, the Bass Drum Secrets video goes into Heel-Toe, so you might want to check it out. |
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Nov 20 2008, 02:55 PM
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Captain Joined: 16-May 08 From: Toronto, Ontario Drum Set: Yamaha Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 903 |
And it works for any feet size too! I've got size 11.
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Nov 22 2008, 07:38 AM
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Private Joined: 4-October 08 From: Bratislava Slovakia Drum Set: Ludwig Cymbals: Paiste Posts: 84 |
Thanks for video! Sticktrix.
Heel toe looks pretty good.This guy on the video is so fast. Good job with feet. -------------------- Martin |
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Nov 23 2008, 10:28 AM
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 Lieutenant Joined: 27-September 08 From: South Africa Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 613 |
awsome
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Im a 13 year old drummer, youngest on the forum at the moment, been playing for 1 year and love it |
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Nov 23 2008, 10:49 AM
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FDL Ambassador Joined: 29-November 07 Drum Set: Yamaha Posts: 1,635 |
QUOTE (Sticktrix @ Nov 20 2008, 01:41 PM) Hunter, this video should sum up everything so far. It shows the difference between heels up, and heel toe. Good luck! YouTube Video ->
Original Video
Yah, this isn't how I recommend doing heel toe..It's too much work. -------------------- |
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May 7 2009, 10:44 PM
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Recruit Joined: 7-May 09 Posts: 3 |
How would you recommend doing the heel toe Jared if I may ask?
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May 8 2009, 07:31 AM
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 Sergeant Joined: 2-April 09 From: Montana, U.S.A. Drum Set: Pearl Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 257 |
QUOTE (DEADPOOL @ May 7 2009, 11:44 PM) How would you recommend doing the heel toe Jared if I may ask? Scrape up enough money for the Bass Drum Secrets DVD. Seriously Jared shows you every thing you need to know about heel-to-toe and much more. This is one of their best videos ever. You catch on very quickly. I can't recommend this DVD enough. Jared Falk is one of the best drum teachers out there. |
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May 8 2009, 09:47 AM
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 Sergeant Joined: 14-December 08 Drum Set: Other Cymbals: Other Posts: 328 |
QUOTE (Jared Falk @ Jan 9 2009, 08:21 PM)
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May 8 2009, 12:51 PM
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 Lieutenant Joined: 19-January 09 From: Yelm, WA Drum Set: Ludwig Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 464 |
I need to practice the heel/toe a bit more. When I think about doing it, it's alright, but when I try to use it in a beat, I can't get it, except for one simple beat.
-------------------- Ludwig LR1325EC Accent 5-Piece Custom Power Drum Kit w/ Ported Remo Powerstroke 3 Bass Drumhead, Sabian B8 Performance Set Cymbal Pack and Pearl P122TW Power Shifter Double Bass Drum Pedal.
QUOTE (rask4p @ Feb 4 2009, 12:06 PM) sounds fun, like a full body flam! |
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Sep 30 2009, 04:52 PM
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 Recruit Joined: 30-September 09 From: Germany/Bavaria Posts: 9 |
Yeah, but maybe this one simple beat is enough to practice it!
 I'm also on it since one week... there are definitley hearable results! You should't use it in complicated beats... cause it's simply frustrating at the beginning. I always use it at a VERY SIMPLE and easy beat...(straight 8 groove or sumthin) but first, I start a warm up exercise with it... heel down, toe down, heel down toe down... believe me, it can be REALLY funny... but you have 2 find your own tecnique for practicing! and as always said here: Have FUN! cause everything else won't bring you to any success! nice greets from germany/bavaria! Jay (i hope my roots will explain my bad english ^^) -------------------- "Playing guitarr is pretty cool! But hitting stuff, awesome!" Chad Smith |
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