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Bossa Nova Play-Along
Jared Falk
post Nov 30 2007, 02:19 PM
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This is the *official* discussion thread for the drum lesson...

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post Aug 15 2008, 06:23 AM
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Well looks like i can kick off the discussion on this video.

I just wondered what the little drum was that seemed to sit behind the Bass Drum, or am i seeing things? Anyone care to explain?


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post Aug 15 2008, 06:54 AM
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QUOTE (JimmyDeemo @ Aug 15 2008, 06:23 AM) *
Well looks like i can kick off the discussion on this video.

I just wondered what the little drum was that seemed to sit behind the Bass Drum, or am i seeing things? Anyone care to explain?

It looks like a SubKick. Basically a large diaphram microphone used to mic the low end of a bass drum.

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post Aug 15 2008, 06:57 AM
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Ah i see, i guess this is use more in the latin drum sets. I noticed it was the same colour, so i guess it comes with the kit?


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post Aug 15 2008, 07:01 AM
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QUOTE (JimmyDeemo @ Aug 15 2008, 09:57 AM) *
Ah i see, i guess this is use more in the latin drum sets. I noticed it was the same colour, so i guess it comes with the kit?


I believe you can special order the sub kick to match the color of your kit. Either that or he got lucky and found the right match!


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post Aug 15 2008, 07:31 AM
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QUOTE (JimmyDeemo @ Aug 15 2008, 06:57 AM) *
Ah i see, i guess this is use more in the latin drum sets. I noticed it was the same colour, so i guess it comes with the kit?

Its not really a latin thing. Its more of a Yamaha thing.


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post Aug 15 2008, 01:41 PM
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Buying a Subkick is like buying any other microphone.
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post Aug 15 2008, 01:45 PM
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Ah i see now thanks. Looks quite cool i think.


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QUOTE (Dealas @ Aug 15 2008, 01:41 PM) *
Buying a Subkick is like buying any other microphone.

...except the SubKick uses a 6-1/2" woofer as the microphone. It is extremely large and heavy (slow) compared to other microphone diaphrams. Combined with the birch/mahogany drum-style shell, the SubKick will only pick up the extreme low end of the kick drum. I've never used one but I wonder if it can even pick up the attack of the beater or do you need to mic for that separately? Two mic's just for the kick??


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post Aug 16 2008, 11:21 AM
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From what I've heard, the Subkick also picks up a great deal of attack, and you can do only with the subkick. In an ideal (utopic) situation, I'd mic my kick with 2 mics, one for tone and one for attack.
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post Aug 17 2008, 07:37 AM
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That's Mike's subkick he got from Yamaha. I am pretty sure they don't do custom colors (not 100%) so he actually got it custom painted from a friend of his. When we record with him, we use that along side of a regular Beta 52. The subkick on its own can be a little much so it's best if it's mixed in. Yah, but all that's in the subkick is a Yamaha NS-10 Speaker cone to catch a larger diaphragm of sound.


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post Sep 5 2008, 07:42 AM
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no offensene or anything but it kinda sounded like elevater music
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post Sep 5 2008, 07:52 AM
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QUOTE (hiispie2 @ Sep 5 2008, 07:42 AM) *
no offensene or anything but it kinda sounded like elevater music

Bossa nova tends to be that way, IMO.
I feel like I'm in the waiting room to get my teeth cleaned.


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QUOTE (hiispie2 @ Sep 5 2008, 09:42 AM) *
no offensene or anything but it kinda sounded like elevater music


"No offense, but I'm about to say something offensive"

I wish people would show more respect to different styles of music. sad.gif


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post Jan 27 2009, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE (Pewpz @ Jan 27 2009, 05:20 PM) *
"No offense, but I'm about to say something offensive"

I wish people would show more respect to different styles of music. sad.gif


Everyone is entitled to their own opinion wink.gif


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post Jan 27 2009, 04:39 PM
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post Feb 3 2009, 10:09 AM
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Speaking of bossa...

We made a cover of Chick Korea's "Spain", and in the solo bit, the guys told me to freestyle bossa while keeping the same tempo. 5 minutes later, I had (besides a massive leg cramp) discovered a great exercise for single-bass doubles.
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