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 Nov 30 2007, 02:57 PM
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Jul 11 2008, 06:15 AM
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 Corporal Joined: 16-May 08 From: Philippines Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 157 |
Question!
can/are odd time signatures/beats be used through out a whole song? or is it just played in fragments like dream theater songs wherein the time signature changes from time to time? or simply: is their a song wherein the time sig is purely odd? i dunno if that was simpler. or if my question was understandable 
-------------------- it is possible for you to read every book in the world and still not know everything
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Jul 11 2008, 08:42 AM
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FDL Ambassador Joined: 29-November 07 Drum Set: Yamaha Posts: 1,635 |
QUOTE (TimPinoy @ Jul 11 2008, 06:15 AM)  Question! can/are odd time signatures/beats be used through out a whole song? or is it just played in fragments like dream theater songs wherein the time signature changes from time to time? or simply: is their a song wherein the time sig is purely odd? i dunno if that was simpler. or if my question was understandable You can do both. I have played full songs in 5/4 before and I have played fragmented odd time patterns within a regular 4/4 song. Hope that helps. -------------------- |
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Jul 11 2008, 12:15 PM
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 Corporal Joined: 5-December 07 From: Zagreb, Croatia Drum Set: Premier Cymbals: Other Posts: 172 |
Just as a continuation of Jared's post, here's a song that's (almost) entirely played in 5/4.
George Duke with Billy Cobham - Rush Hour YouTube Video ->
Original Video
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Jul 11 2008, 12:37 PM
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 Moderator Classic Joined: 23-March 08 From: Pacific Northwest Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 12,556 |
Geez - Billy looks so relaxed on that kit. He's doing amazing stuff and it looks like he could tell you a funny story while he's at it.
-------------------- . To see if you'll like it, pull your pants down and take a slide on the ice. |
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Jul 11 2008, 01:36 PM
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Corporal Joined: 5-December 07 From: Zagreb, Croatia Drum Set: Premier Cymbals: Other Posts: 172 |
QUOTE (Poco Askew @ Jul 11 2008, 09:37 PM) Geez - Billy looks so relaxed on that kit. He's doing amazing stuff and it looks like he could tell you a funny story while he's at it. Try to keep your focus on him at 2:20, that is pretty funny. You can actually see him talking to the tone guy for a couple of seconds. 
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Jul 11 2008, 08:46 PM
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Commander Joined: 31-May 08 Drum Set: Ludwig Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 1,865 |
That's a boatload of drums for a jazz guy. And I thought I was verging on blasphemy for thinking about putting a double pedal into my kit. Great vid.
-------------------- Terry
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Jul 11 2008, 09:28 PM
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 FDL Moderator Joined: 10-March 08 From: NJ Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 6,863 |
now that's what I call being in the pocket!
-------------------- Are you standing close to the edge? Look out to the setting sun, the brink of your vision. Eternal youth is a landscape of a lie. The cracks in my skin can prove, as the years will testify. Say your prayers and light a fire, we're gonna start a war. Your slogan's a gun for hire, it's what we waited for. This is why we're on the edge. The fight of our lives been drawn to this undying love.
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Jul 11 2008, 11:41 PM
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Colonel Joined: 16-January 08 From: Gilbert, Az Drum Set: Sonor Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 2,040 |
I believe the entire Rush song Subdivisions is in 7/8 time.
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Jul 12 2008, 04:25 AM
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Colonel Joined: 6-January 08 From: Victoria, Australia Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 2,233 |
QUOTE (klejton @ Jul 12 2008, 06:36 AM) Try to keep your focus on him at 2:20, that is pretty funny. You can actually see him talking to the tone guy for a couple of seconds. Haha, I usually talk to my mate (who is the other percussionist) while we are playing songs at a gig
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Jul 12 2008, 02:39 PM
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 FDL Moderator Joined: 4-December 07 From: Boston, MA Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 5,052 |
I very nearly peed my pants when Billy Cobham played the initial groove at 0:32... This post has been edited by Dealas: Jul 12 2008, 02:41 PM |
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Jul 13 2008, 07:33 AM
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 Sergeant Joined: 17-May 08 From: USA Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 235 |
I guess I still have a lot to learn because I couldn't tell you if it was an odd time or not. How can you tell? Maybe I'm tone deaf.
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Jul 13 2008, 07:57 AM
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Moderator Classic Joined: 23-March 08 From: Pacific Northwest Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 12,556 |
QUOTE (drummerchick @ Jul 13 2008, 07:33 AM) I guess I still have a lot to learn because I couldn't tell you if it was an odd time or not. How can you tell? Maybe I'm tone deaf. That one was harder for me to try and pick it out. Its got nothing to do with tone, however. Its the feel of the beat and harmony. A waltz is a good, simple example. You can feel the 3 beats per measure (3/4 time). -------------------- . To see if you'll like it, pull your pants down and take a slide on the ice. |
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 Sep 2 2008, 03:46 PM
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Recruit Joined: 2-September 08 Drum Set: Pearl Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 4 |
i love the fill that billy does at about 4:17
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Jan 15 2009, 01:30 AM
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 Sergeant Joined: 15-April 08 From: Land of the Rising Sun Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Paiste Posts: 384 |
The song Seven Days from Sting is entirely played in 5/4 (or some said 5/8). Vinnie Colaiuta is really amazing... Groove Master
 YouTube Video ->
Original Video
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Jan 15 2009, 06:15 AM
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 Brigadier Joined: 13-August 08 From: Be Sweet Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 4,616 |
This may be a silly question..But what time is the Tango in?
-------------------- When you have the choice between taking an escalator or the stairs, take the stairs.
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Jan 15 2009, 07:23 AM
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Moderator Classic Joined: 23-March 08 From: Pacific Northwest Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 12,556 |
QUOTE (drumchic64 @ Jan 15 2009, 05:15 AM) This may be a silly question..But what time is the Tango in? 4/4  Remember, there are no silly/stupid questions here. -------------------- . To see if you'll like it, pull your pants down and take a slide on the ice. |
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Jan 15 2009, 10:18 AM
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 Lieutenant Joined: 16-March 08 From: Colorado Drum Set: Drum Workshop Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 504 |
Tool-Vicarious is in 5/4. FWIW
-------------------- “The music business is a cruel and shallow money trench, a long plastic hallway where thieves and pimps run free, and good men die like dogs. There's also a negative side." --Hunter S. Thompson
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