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5/4 Odd-time Beats
Jared Falk
post Nov 30 2007, 02:57 PM
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post Jul 11 2008, 06:15 AM
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Question!

can/are odd time signatures/beats be used through out a whole song? or is it just played in fragments like dream theater songs wherein the time signature changes from time to time?

or simply: is their a song wherein the time sig is purely odd?
i dunno if that was simpler.
or if my question was understandable wacko.gif


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Jared Falk
post Jul 11 2008, 08:42 AM
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QUOTE (TimPinoy @ Jul 11 2008, 06:15 AM) *
Question!

can/are odd time signatures/beats be used through out a whole song? or is it just played in fragments like dream theater songs wherein the time signature changes from time to time?

or simply: is their a song wherein the time sig is purely odd?
i dunno if that was simpler.
or if my question was understandable wacko.gif


You can do both. I have played full songs in 5/4 before and I have played fragmented odd time patterns within a regular 4/4 song. Hope that helps.


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klejton
post Jul 11 2008, 12:15 PM
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Just as a continuation of Jared's post, here's a song that's (almost) entirely played in 5/4.

George Duke with Billy Cobham - Rush Hour
YouTube Video -> Original Video


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Poco Askew
post Jul 11 2008, 12:37 PM
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Geez - Billy looks so relaxed on that kit. He's doing amazing stuff and it looks like he could tell you a funny story while he's at it. ohmy.gif


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post Jul 11 2008, 01:36 PM
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QUOTE (Poco Askew @ Jul 11 2008, 09:37 PM) *
Geez - Billy looks so relaxed on that kit. He's doing amazing stuff and it looks like he could tell you a funny story while he's at it. ohmy.gif

Try to keep your focus on him at 2:20, that is pretty funny. You can actually see him talking to the tone guy for a couple of seconds. laugh.gif

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post Jul 11 2008, 08:46 PM
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That's a boatload of drums for a jazz guy. And I thought I was verging on blasphemy for thinking about putting a double pedal into my kit. Great vid.


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post Jul 11 2008, 09:28 PM
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now that's what I call being in the pocket!


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post Jul 11 2008, 11:41 PM
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I believe the entire Rush song Subdivisions is in 7/8 time.
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post Jul 12 2008, 04:25 AM
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QUOTE (klejton @ Jul 12 2008, 06:36 AM) *
Try to keep your focus on him at 2:20, that is pretty funny. You can actually see him talking to the tone guy for a couple of seconds. laugh.gif

Haha, I usually talk to my mate (who is the other percussionist) while we are playing songs at a gig laugh.gif
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post Jul 12 2008, 02:39 PM
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ohmy.gif

I very nearly peed my pants when Billy Cobham played the initial groove at 0:32...

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drummerchick
post Jul 13 2008, 07:33 AM
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I guess I still have a lot to learn because I couldn't tell you if it was an odd time or not. How can you tell? Maybe I'm tone deaf. sad.gif
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post Jul 13 2008, 07:57 AM
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QUOTE (drummerchick @ Jul 13 2008, 07:33 AM) *
I guess I still have a lot to learn because I couldn't tell you if it was an odd time or not. How can you tell? Maybe I'm tone deaf. sad.gif

That one was harder for me to try and pick it out. Its got nothing to do with tone, however. Its the feel of the beat and harmony. A waltz is a good, simple example. You can feel the 3 beats per measure (3/4 time).


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post Sep 2 2008, 03:46 PM
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laugh.gif i love the fill that billy does at about 4:17
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post Jan 15 2009, 01:30 AM
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The song Seven Days from Sting is entirely played in 5/4 (or some said 5/8). Vinnie Colaiuta is really amazing... Groove Master blink.gif

YouTube Video -> Original Video
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post Jan 15 2009, 06:15 AM
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This may be a silly question..But what time is the Tango in?


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post Jan 15 2009, 07:23 AM
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QUOTE (drumchic64 @ Jan 15 2009, 05:15 AM) *
This may be a silly question..But what time is the Tango in?

4/4 wink.gif
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post Jan 15 2009, 10:18 AM
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Tool-Vicarious is in 5/4. FWIW


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