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 Nov 30 2007, 03:05 PM
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Apr 18 2008, 02:44 PM
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 Apprentice Joined: 18-April 08 Drum Set: Alesis Cymbals: Other Posts: 14 |
Right at the part where you say that some of your students have trouble with it....well..im stuck...I cant break it down...its kinda fast and complex for me, any sugestions?edit- well I can finally break it down, I just had to learn how to read the notes which didnt take too long, but Im still having touble with it...I have to do it really really really really slow to nail it, once I speed it up I either lose my timing, or I just completly mess it up and add hits that shouldnt be there...so what do you think is the best way to keep on learning these?
This post has been edited by kuebert: Apr 19 2008, 03:48 PM -------------------- my avatar picture is me ( the driver) then my girlfriend holding on to me, then my cousin, holding on to dear life....
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Apr 20 2008, 06:46 AM
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 Major Joined: 12-March 08 From: Tallinn, Estonia Cymbals: Meinl Posts: 1,380 |
You need more independence in your limbs. For these you need to practice beats such as this. It just takes time.
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Apr 20 2008, 10:39 AM
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QUOTE (kuebert @ Apr 18 2008, 02:49 PM)  Right at the part where you say that some of your students have trouble with it....well..im stuck...I cant break it down...its kinda fast and complex for me, any sugestions?edit- well I can finally break it down, I just had to learn how to read the notes which didnt take too long, but Im still having touble with it...I have to do it really really really really slow to nail it, once I speed it up I either lose my timing, or I just completly mess it up and add hits that shouldnt be there...so what do you think is the best way to keep on learning these? The best way to keep learning them is to do what you have been doing. Practice SLOWLY. Sometimes I would work on a groove for a week and not be able to get it. Then, I would slow it down so much that it doesn't even sound like a beat until I felt comfortable with the notes and separations. You will get it...just keep practicing! -------------------- |
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Apr 21 2008, 03:42 PM
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 Recruit Joined: 21-April 08 From: fort mcmurray alta Posts: 1 |
yes iam having problems with this as well it seams that what ever the extra note is on the kit i play on the hi hat its like my right foot and right arm are joined .
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Apr 22 2008, 02:40 PM
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Apprentice Joined: 18-April 08 Drum Set: Alesis Cymbals: Other Posts: 14 |
Well Jared, just wanted to say that after about 8 or 9 hours today, Ive got the 16th note beats down, no problems with that no more, Is it normal though, to practice a beat for that long, and not even be able to memorize it without a note chart in front of me? I seem to have that problem.......anywayz, I think im gonna try the next few lessons tommorow, Im all drummed out for today , thanx again buddy, you help a hell of a lot.
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Apr 29 2008, 02:35 PM
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 Recruit Joined: 29-April 08 Drum Set: Yamaha Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 1 |
The only real problem i have with these beats, is the Hi-Hat, I've got no problem playing it with a continuous beat on it, but when i break it down and do it right, it seems like i just mess everything else up.
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Apr 30 2008, 08:24 AM
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Major Joined: 12-March 08 From: Tallinn, Estonia Cymbals: Meinl Posts: 1,380 |
Start slow and practice lots.
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May 15 2008, 07:59 PM
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Recruit Joined: 15-May 08 Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 1 |
hey jared,
i am having trouble on the sixteenth note beats, its just not making sense. excercise one leaves me confused beacuse on the sixteenth note it ony two notes which confuses me on the count. please help!!! |
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Aug 10 2008, 07:49 AM
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 Corporal Joined: 30-July 08 From: Michigan. Town of boring in the southeast Drum Set: Roland Cymbals: Paiste Posts: 159 |
QUOTE (JAYBROSKI3 @ May 15 2008, 10:59 PM) hey jared, i am having trouble on the sixteenth note beats, its just not making sense. excercise one leaves me confused beacuse on the sixteenth note it ony two notes which confuses me on the count. please help!!! The first one is a transition from eighth note beats into sixteenth ones. You count it 1 and 2 and 3 e and a 4 and. On the 3 part, you hit the hi-hat and bass on 3, do nothing on e, hi-hat on and, then bass on a. I think he goes over this in the video, but I'm not sure. I know he says this though: Go over it slowly until you have it down, then start to go a bit faster. Trust me, it helps a lot. This post has been edited by Pickles: Aug 10 2008, 07:50 AM |
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Aug 10 2008, 08:29 AM
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 Moderator Classic Joined: 23-March 08 From: Pacific Northwest Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 12,556 |
Welcome Jaybrowski3!
You might find it easier in the beginning to count all 16ths: 1e&a2e&a3e&a4e&a. Of course you'd still only play the 1/8th notes on the numbers and "&". This would help you get the rhythm, timing and counting for 16ths all through the measures. -------------------- . To see if you'll like it, pull your pants down and take a slide on the ice. |
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Aug 10 2008, 03:08 PM
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Corporal Joined: 30-July 08 From: Michigan. Town of boring in the southeast Drum Set: Roland Cymbals: Paiste Posts: 159 |
Yeah, that would probably be easier when you're just starting it, so you can get the sixteenth note count down.
And welcome btw 
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Oct 8 2008, 08:57 AM
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 Sergeant Joined: 6-September 08 From: Sweden Drum Set: Roland Posts: 399 |
<- Also struggleing. Really hard beat.
But I'll just keep on bashing I guess ^^
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Oct 8 2008, 12:45 PM
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Sergeant Joined: 6-September 08 From: Sweden Drum Set: Roland Posts: 399 |
Woho, I nailed it now.
After about 30 mins.. I think I developed a new way of learning hard beats.. At least seemed to work for me. I'll tell you what I did, maybe it will help someone or maybe I shouldnt be doing it if its bad or something cause of reasons I dont know. (Im talking about beat 4 and upwards) I played pretty slow for starters but I played it 4 "notes" at a time.. First I just learned the first four then stopped.. then played that until it sat perfect. Then I added 2 more and played 6 notes at a time and kept adding small parts of the sheet until I finally had it all. I never tried this before, was just something that hit me now and it worked wonders for me. Maybe and hopefully tihs helps someone. EDIT: Really hard going past 85ish BPM.. My right foot just wont allow it.  It almost does, sometimes, but sometimes it doesnt, get offsync and horrible timing etc.
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Oct 10 2008, 02:08 PM
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Major Joined: 12-March 08 From: Tallinn, Estonia Cymbals: Meinl Posts: 1,380 |
Yeah, foot speed is something that develops, just like hand speed. Unfortunately you're rather stuck at that tempo. You could try learning heel-toe and implementing that.
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Oct 11 2008, 02:35 PM
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 Apprentice Joined: 7-October 08 Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Other Posts: 49 |
QUOTE (Jared Falk @ Apr 20 2008, 10:39 AM) The best way to keep learning them is to do what you have been doing. Practice SLOWLY. Sometimes I would work on a groove for a week and not be able to get it. Then, I would slow it down so much that it doesn't even sound like a beat until I felt comfortable with the notes and separations. You will get it...just keep practicing! good point and thanks - have to remember not to get frustrated, just to keep it up -------------------- "now when I nod my head, you hit it"
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Oct 24 2008, 06:51 PM
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Recruit Joined: 24-October 08 From: Ny Drum Set: Roland Cymbals: Roland Posts: 5 |
Some for the love of god help me break this down I tried reading the other tips, but I think i am totally off here is an upload of what mine sounds at as of the moment I been working none stop and its so hard not having one show be, but I got to deal I just hope someone can help me. Sorry for horrible audio quality I had to rig it using sound re
YouTube Video ->
Original Video
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Oct 24 2008, 07:17 PM
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 FDL Moderator Joined: 10-March 08 From: NJ Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 6,863 |
says video has a malformed ID (clicked original video link)
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Oct 24 2008, 07:23 PM
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 FDL Moderator Joined: 4-December 07 From: Boston, MA Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 5,052 |
Yeah, me too...
Maybe the link is wrong? Or maybe Youtube is still uploading the vid? |
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Oct 24 2008, 09:07 PM
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Recruit Joined: 24-October 08 From: Ny Drum Set: Roland Cymbals: Roland Posts: 5 |
QUOTE (Dealas @ Oct 24 2008, 10:23 PM) Yeah, me too... Maybe the link is wrong? Or maybe Youtube is still uploading the vid? Hey fixed it, but I think I am going to make another one using my metronome guy who commented on my video really made me think about finally learning how to set it up the way I want which I think helped me a little, but I am still sounding really off I believe. |
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