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Time signatures, I'm confused...
fnovus
post Nov 7 2009, 02:24 PM
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I've recently started incorporating "strange" time signatures into my music and I've been wondering what the differences would be between something played in 4/4, 4/8, 8/4 and 8/8 time, for example. Say I'm playing the basic rock beat at 90 BPM, would the overall tempo I'm playing it at be affected by the time signature?

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megabert
post Nov 7 2009, 03:03 PM
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All the time signatures you mentioned are in a basic four. The main use of the time signature for a drummer is in finding the beat. 3/4 will not have a 4/4 beat, and neither will 6/8. There are other time signatures, too, but almost anything in a 4 or 8 time will have a basic four beat.


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fnovus
post Nov 7 2009, 03:10 PM
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So is the only thing that's affected the amount of beats per bar? Or does the second/bottom number affect anything?
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post Nov 7 2009, 03:28 PM
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The second number affects which note when written gets the beat. 4 means quarter note, 2 means half note, 8 means 8th note, and so on. The first note is the important one unless you're playing sheet music, then it helps to know what the second one means, too.


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post Nov 7 2009, 10:53 PM
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The quarter note is the count in 4/4, 6/4, etc. so the overall speed doesn't change, the only thing that changes is length of each bar. The bottom number gets the count. So in 6/8, you would count to eight. In 3/4, you would
count to four. The way I learned them was like if the time was 7/8, seven eighth notes are in a bar, instead of eight.
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post Nov 8 2009, 02:11 AM
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I see. Thanks a lot for the explanations.
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post Nov 8 2009, 07:06 AM
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QUOTE (aL3X119 @ Nov 7 2009, 11:53 PM) *
So in 6/8, you would count to eight. In 3/4, you would count to four.


Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't you count to 6 in 6/8 and 3 in 3/4?


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post Nov 8 2009, 07:27 AM
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QUOTE (Vasheir @ Nov 8 2009, 06:06 AM) *
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't you count to 6 in 6/8 and 3 in 3/4?

You are correct sir.
The SECOND number tells you WHAT to count. The FIRST number tells you HOW MANY to count in a measure.


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post Nov 8 2009, 10:40 AM
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QUOTE (Vasheir @ Nov 8 2009, 08:06 AM) *
Correct me if I'm wrong, but wouldn't you count to 6 in 6/8 and 3 in 3/4?

Oh yeah, you are right, sorry, wasn't thinking. Thanks!
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fnovus
post Nov 8 2009, 12:17 PM
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Heh, I just noticed that. I payed more attention to the last sentence.
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