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 Nov 30 2007, 03:34 PM
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Feb 20 2008, 11:30 AM
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Recruit Joined: 20-February 08 Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Paiste Posts: 1 |
Hello: My name is Miles. I downloaded all the Rudiment video's and have been practicing with them. I wonder if you could send me a list of what tempo the metronome is set to on all of the different rudiments. I can go thru all of them and figure it out. But it would be easier if you already have that info.
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Feb 20 2008, 03:42 PM
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Sergeant Joined: 12-February 08 From: hull. england Drum Set: Pearl Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 355 |
i don't use a metronome
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Feb 20 2008, 04:05 PM
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 FDL Moderator Joined: 4-December 07 From: Boston, MA Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 5,051 |
QUOTE (blueondrums @ Feb 20 2008, 05:47 PM)  i don't use a metronome  Blasphemy!!! |
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Mar 12 2008, 08:58 AM
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 Private Joined: 4-March 08 From: University of Southern Maine. Gorham, Maine Drum Set: Other Posts: 77 |
QUOTE (Dealas @ Feb 20 2008, 07:10 PM) Blasphemy!!! Just got a metranome yesterday. It has already helped sooooo much |
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Mar 12 2008, 03:58 PM
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Sergeant Joined: 8-December 07 From: BC,Canada Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 289 |
QUOTE (Dealas @ Feb 20 2008, 04:10 PM) Blasphemy!!! LOL...I could not agree more. I cannot imagine my drumming before I metronome. It's like....seeing the sun for the very first time...or....or....something deep like that....  And I believe it's around 110 BPM...I think I found out a while ago, but maybe that was just a specific lesson. They are a little fast for me to be honest. some of the flams and drags and I have a hard time understanding when it comes to the beats and fills cause of the speed. All in due time I suppose. -------------------- Destroy your ego
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Mar 13 2008, 02:39 AM
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 Private Joined: 3-March 08 From: San Diego CA Drum Set: Other Posts: 99 |
yeah some videos i can keep up with but some are wayyyyy to fast... maybe show what the speed on the metronome is set to... some of the vids the instructors say what the speed is but on the rudiments they dont
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Mar 13 2008, 03:51 AM
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Private Joined: 4-March 08 From: University of Southern Maine. Gorham, Maine Drum Set: Other Posts: 77 |
QUOTE (rafaelr12 @ Mar 13 2008, 05:44 AM) yeah some videos i can keep up with but some are wayyyyy to fast... maybe show what the speed on the metronome is set to... some of the vids the instructors say what the speed is but on the rudiments they dont I agree. i started rudiments yesterday and i was really confused when trying to follow the some of the music on the first examples of the lessons just because it was to fast |
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Mar 14 2008, 01:15 AM
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Colonel Joined: 6-January 08 From: Victoria, Australia Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 2,233 |
I haven't really thought about the bpm that the instructors play, i usually just go at my own pace.
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Mar 16 2008, 09:59 AM
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 Lieutenant Joined: 16-January 08 From: Massachusetts Drum Set: Gretsch Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 535 |
QUOTE (blueondrums @ Feb 20 2008, 06:47 PM) i don't use a metronome I didn't use the click at first because i've always had a good sense of time but its a good thing! Its a steady pulse that your body naturally follows. Most of the time you don't even have to pay attention to it if the song does not have many timing changes. If you don't hear the metronome that means you are in time with it or you need to check the click volume. Don't see as a clutch but as a great invention to make drumming life easier. -------------------- this is a signature... LOVE IT!
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Mar 17 2008, 12:01 AM
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Colonel Joined: 6-January 08 From: Victoria, Australia Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 2,233 |
QUOTE (Beatbug2 @ Mar 17 2008, 04:04 AM) I didn't use the click at first because i've always had a good sense of time but its a good thing! Its a steady pulse that your body naturally follows. Most of the time you don't even have to pay attention to it if the song does not have many timing changes. If you don't hear the metronome that means you are in time with it or you need to check the click volume. Don't see as a clutch but as a great invention to make drumming life easier. Yeah that's true that you shouldn't hear it if you are playing right. I usually just watch the lights on my metronome if i can't hear it  Hodgey |
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Mar 19 2008, 01:40 PM
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Private Joined: 4-March 08 From: University of Southern Maine. Gorham, Maine Drum Set: Other Posts: 77 |
QUOTE (Hodgey @ Mar 17 2008, 03:06 AM) Yeah that's true that you shouldn't hear it if you are playing right. I usually just watch the lights on my metronome if i can't hear it Hodgey I tend to look down at the pad when im practiceing so a light woild do well for me. I just hook my headphones up to the metronome and the noise isnt drowned out |
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Mar 20 2008, 08:04 PM
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Colonel Joined: 6-January 08 From: Victoria, Australia Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 2,233 |
QUOTE (Bealifer @ Mar 20 2008, 07:45 AM) I tend to look down at the pad when im practiceing so a light woild do well for me. I just hook my headphones up to the metronome and the noise isnt drowned out I would prefer to have the sounds drowned out because then i know that i am getting all of the notes even |
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Mar 20 2008, 08:05 PM
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Private Joined: 4-March 08 From: University of Southern Maine. Gorham, Maine Drum Set: Other Posts: 77 |
QUOTE (Hodgey @ Mar 20 2008, 11:09 PM) I would prefer to have the sounds drowned out because then i know that i am getting all of the notes even that is true |
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Mar 20 2008, 08:43 PM
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Colonel Joined: 6-January 08 From: Victoria, Australia Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 2,233 |
Yeh and i don't have any headphones right now which is kind of a downer, all i have is mini speakers that i plug into my mp3 player
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Apr 13 2008, 04:46 PM
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Recruit Joined: 26-January 08 Drum Set: Other Cymbals: Other Posts: 2 |
hi I've been using the music sheet and I do not see any crash at the end of the fill part of this rudiment. I was trying to pay attention to the time since it sounds correct. Is the crash substituting the last 16th floor tomb note? if not what value it is given and why it does not show up in the music sheet.
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Apr 14 2008, 11:22 AM
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 Major Joined: 12-March 08 From: Tallinn, Estonia Cymbals: Meinl Posts: 1,380 |
I haven't seen the video but i'm willing to bet that the crash is on the first beat of the NEXT bar.
It's like that on most all fills. At least in rock, IDK about jazz and metal just has so many cymbals i don't pay attention. -------------------- Having come across problems of not knowing if it is okay to copy a forum post, I'll state the following:
You may at any point take any of my posts from this forum and edit them for use (or use without editing) anywhere else unless stated otherwise. |
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Jun 13 2008, 02:00 PM
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 Recruit Joined: 13-June 08 From: England Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 9 |
The very first thing I learned from my drum teacher was how to keep correct counts, ever since then the metronome just seems pointless whenever someone trys to make me use one. I would have to agree the rudiment videos do move a bit fast sometimes, but I still think they're usefull.
-------------------- Your ideals change when you've got nothing to lose
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Jun 13 2008, 02:38 PM
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 Moderator Classic Joined: 23-March 08 From: Pacific Northwest Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 12,553 |
QUOTE (nhrn @ Jun 13 2008, 02:05 PM) The very first thing I learned from my drum teacher was how to keep correct counts, ever since then the metronome just seems pointless whenever someone trys to make me use one. I would have to agree the rudiment videos do move a bit fast sometimes, but I still think they're usefull. Welcome nhrn! Metronomes have nothing to do with learning to count beats (directly). Metronomes are all about accurate time and tempo. You can be an expert at counting but still be off a tiny bit with your strokes and kicks and have your tempo vary as you play. So many things are difficult in learning how to drum well. Using a metronome is one of the easiest things you can do. Metronomes are your best friend in becoming a better drummer, IMO. This post has been edited by Poco Askew: Jun 13 2008, 03:07 PM -------------------- . I'm not unemployed. I'm a consultant. |
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Jun 13 2008, 03:05 PM
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Recruit Joined: 13-June 08 From: England Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 9 |
QUOTE (Poco Askew @ Jun 13 2008, 10:43 PM) Welcome nhrn! Metronomes have nothing to do with learning to count beats (directly). Metronomes are all about accurate time and tempo. You can be an expert at counting but still be off a tiny bit with your strokes and kicks and have your tempo vary as you play. So many things are difficult in learning how to drum well. Using metronomes are one of the easiest things you can do. Metronomes are your best friend in becoming a better drummer, IMO. Sorry I didn't go into enough detail when I said "count" my first drum lessons involved me keeping in time with various songs on the high-hat, when teaching beat and fills he would only let me move onto other things once I had everything lined up perfectly without variation in tempo. Overall he was a very good teacher
This post has been edited by nhrn: Jun 13 2008, 03:06 PM -------------------- Your ideals change when you've got nothing to lose
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