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Cymbal Choking |
 Nov 30 2007, 03:37 PM
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 FDL Ambassador Joined: 29-November 07 Drum Set: Yamaha Posts: 1,635  |
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Dec 3 2007, 11:33 PM
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 Apprentice Joined: 3-December 07 Drum Set: Ludwig Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 18 |
I have always used two hands to choke the cymbals...It's great that there is another method.
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Dec 3 2007, 11:45 PM
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FDL Administrator Joined: 28-November 07 From: BC Canada Drum Set: Yamaha Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 380 |
QUOTE (speed drummer430 @ Dec 3 2007, 11:14 PM)  I have always used two hands to choke the cymbals...It's great that there is another method. Yeah, you just have to be careful with the one-handed crash/choke. Practice it slowly at first, cause there is a risk of hurting yourself when you go to quickly grab the moving cymbal. -------------------- Rick Kettner
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Dec 3 2007, 11:48 PM
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Recruit Joined: 3-December 07 Posts: 9 |
QUOTE (Rick Kettner @ Dec 3 2007, 11:26 PM) Yeah, you just have to be careful with the one-handed crash/choke. Practice it slowly at first, cause there is a risk of hurting yourself when you go to quickly grab the moving cymbal. Hahaha i have cut myself more than a few times one the cymbals, and the snare beleive it or not! |
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Dec 5 2007, 08:27 AM
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Recruit Joined: 4-December 07 Drum Set: Pearl Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 9 |
Jared,
The demo you do at the end of the lesson is pretty insane. I want to give it a try but suspect that I will fall off of my throne. |
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Dec 5 2007, 09:08 AM
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 Apprentice Joined: 3-December 07 Drum Set: Pearl Posts: 19 |
QUOTE (mike @ Dec 5 2007, 08:08 AM) Jared, The demo you do at the end of the lesson is pretty insane. I want to give it a try but suspect that I will fall off of my throne. I think it was purposely exaggerated, but theres no way I could do it either 
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Dec 5 2007, 10:46 AM
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FDL Ambassador Joined: 29-November 07 Drum Set: Yamaha Posts: 1,635 |
QUOTE (mike @ Dec 5 2007, 08:08 AM) Jared, The demo you do at the end of the lesson is pretty insane. I want to give it a try but suspect that I will fall off of my throne. Once you have the basic crash/grab down it actually is quite easy. Just make sure you learn it with both hands before trying anything crazy. I used to cut my hands up sooo bad! -------------------- |
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Jan 8 2008, 09:17 AM
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Recruit Joined: 6-January 08 From: U.K Drum Set: Other Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 3 |
Can you choke with electric drum kits??
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Jan 8 2008, 10:00 AM
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 FDL Moderator Joined: 4-December 07 From: Boston, MA Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 5,051 |
QUOTE (lewno1afcfan @ Jan 8 2008, 11:58 AM) Can you choke with electric drum kits?? Not on most, since the whole principal of choking a cymbal is to stop it from vibrating (which is how a normal cymbal creates sound). Electronic kits create the sound electronically, so there's no way of modifying it. What I did do once was change my hi-hat pad to a crash, and I choked it with the hi-hat pedal. Of course, I'd still grab it for the whole show thing, even if it wasn't necessary. It was more of a way of messing with my guitar player, who could not figure out how I was choking it.  Note: I have seen a couple of electronic cymbals that can be choked, but only because they have that special feature (i.e. Hart ECymbals). Most kits can't be choked. By the way, even if the sound of your electric kit doesn't get choked, you should still practice it as if it did. Whenever you go onto an acoustic, you'll have the movement down and you'll be able to do it quite easily. |
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Aug 27 2008, 10:11 AM
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 Corporal Joined: 27-August 08 From: oregon usa Drum Set: Roland Cymbals: Roland Posts: 100 |
QUOTE (Dealas @ Jan 8 2008, 10:00 AM) Not on most, since the whole principal of choking a cymbal is to stop it from vibrating (which is how a normal cymbal creates sound). Electronic kits create the sound electronically, so there's no way of modifying it. What I did do once was change my hi-hat pad to a crash, and I choked it with the hi-hat pedal. Of course, I'd still grab it for the whole show thing, even if it wasn't necessary. It was more of a way of messing with my guitar player, who could not figure out how I was choking it. :D Note: I have seen a couple of electronic cymbals that can be choked, but only because they have that special feature (i.e. Hart ECymbals). Most kits can't be choked. By the way, even if the sound of your electric kit doesn't get choked, you should still practice it as if it did. Whenever you go onto an acoustic, you'll have the movement down and you'll be able to do it quite easily. [font="Arial Black"][/font] if you get a roland kit odds are realy good that you can choke the symbols. i have a $1000 roland kit that i got about 2 years ago and the cymbols are chokeable. i almost got a yamaha that was more expencive and it didn't have choke-able cymbols. |
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Aug 27 2008, 10:29 AM
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 Moderator Classic Joined: 23-March 08 From: Pacific Northwest Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 12,556 |
I can choke the cymbal on my Yamaha DTX II kit - several years old. They used to be about $1K new and about $500 now used.
-------------------- . I'm not unemployed. I'm a consultant. |
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Aug 27 2008, 12:20 PM
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 Corporal Joined: 12-July 08 From: Vancouver Island, B.C. Canada Drum Set: Yamaha Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 151 |
Yeah, I choked a cymbol once. My wife said "Oh, so you gave up on the chicken"
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Aug 27 2008, 12:28 PM
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Moderator Classic Joined: 23-March 08 From: Pacific Northwest Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 12,556 |
Ummm...errr...cough...
Boy the forum is on a rampage today. Don't make me release the flying monkeys. -------------------- . I'm not unemployed. I'm a consultant. |
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Aug 27 2008, 12:42 PM
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 FDL Moderator Joined: 10-March 08 From: NJ Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 6,863 |
QUOTE (Poco Askew @ Aug 27 2008, 03:28 PM) Ummm...errr...cough... Boy the forum is on a rampage today. Don't make me release the flying monkeys. please do. -------------------- Are you standing close to the edge? Look out to the setting sun, the brink of your vision. Eternal youth is a landscape of a lie. The cracks in my skin can prove, as the years will testify. Say your prayers and light a fire, we're gonna start a war. Your slogan's a gun for hire, it's what we waited for. This is why we're on the edge. The fight of our lives been drawn to this undying love.
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Aug 27 2008, 12:53 PM
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 Lieutenant Joined: 29-July 08 From: Zebulon,NC Drum Set: Other Cymbals: Other Posts: 648 |
-------------------- My Grandpappy says "Son, somedays you're the pigeon and somedays you're the statue"
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Aug 29 2008, 12:59 PM
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 Corporal Joined: 22-August 08 From: London, United Kingdom Drum Set: Yamaha Cymbals: Other Posts: 150 |
I just wondered why the term 'cymbal choking' is used, instead of something like 'cymbal muting' or 'cymbal damping'. Just a thought.
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Aug 29 2008, 01:12 PM
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Moderator Classic Joined: 23-March 08 From: Pacific Northwest Drum Set: Mapex Cymbals: Zildjian Posts: 12,556 |
Choking sounds cooler.
-------------------- . I'm not unemployed. I'm a consultant. |
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Aug 29 2008, 01:14 PM
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 Colonel Joined: 22-February 08 From: Pennsylvania, USA Drum Set: Tama Cymbals: Meinl Posts: 2,270 |
QUOTE (Diamondblade2008 @ Aug 29 2008, 03:59 PM) I just wondered why the term 'cymbal choking' is used, instead of something like 'cymbal muting' or 'cymbal damping'. Just a thought. I would have to say that it is because it is the only time anybody can choke something without getting arrested. 
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Aug 29 2008, 04:19 PM
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FDL Moderator Joined: 4-December 07 From: Boston, MA Cymbals: Sabian Posts: 5,051 |
I guess it's because you choke its sound.
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Aug 30 2008, 02:22 AM
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Corporal Joined: 22-August 08 From: London, United Kingdom Drum Set: Yamaha Cymbals: Other Posts: 150 |
QUOTE (Dealas @ Aug 30 2008, 12:19 AM) I guess it's because you choke its sound. That is true, but then you could also say 'you mute or you dampen it's sound'
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